UPSC CSAT: IAS 2012 Expected Cutoffs

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Based on the difficulty level of paper 1 and assuming an average attempt of 80 questions out of 100, a minimum score of 90 marks out of 200 in paper 1 after deducting 1/3rd negative penalty.  In paper 2 assuming an average attempt of 70 questions out of 80, a minimum score of 130 marks out of 200.

Combining the 2 papers the Cut-off score for Prelims 2012 comes to 90+130=220 marks out of 400. In fact, It can be predicted that the cut-off marks will be in the range of 215-230 marks simply because of the easy nature of paper 2 and not-very difficult level of paper 1.

Disclaimer: This cut-off is for reference purpose only, and this is not official released cutoffs by UPSC

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  • Abcd

    wrong analysis

    • Kiran_thunder25

      225 is very high…….as u wrote paper is not very difficult but tricky….paper 2 lengthy and comprehensions r difficult…..so cut off would be around 200….

      • dr Kapil

        i think this year comparatively hard to predict expected cut off due to nature of paper however one can expect around 220 marks. I am running coaching and i have more than 10 years of experience about this paper.

        • Tarun

          hii guys..
          last year official cutoff was 194..so plzz dont give any wrong assumptions to the candidates..this year gs paper was of the same level but csat paper was bit lengthy..last year most of candidates attempted all questions in csat..this year story was different…so a score above 185 is safe score…the paper was not atall of substandard…i advise u all to start preparing for mains and leave rest upto upsc..

          • sushil

            http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0735109794903050… cut off for general in 2011 prelims….. now we have to guess whats going to be this year.

            1) Paper 1 was difficult than last year, it had 60+ questions with options like a,b – a,b,c – only b and a,b,c,d. so people will loose marks here.

            2) Paper 2 was lengthy and compared to last yr slightly difficult…. passages were long. Require careful deduction under stressful conditions…. so over all scoring will be less than last year..Some genius CAT aspirant give prelims for fun score 150+ in paper 2 and very less in paper 1, mislead people in discussions and shit their pants when they see the mains syllabus.. many don’t even appear for mains.

            3) Now the most important point…. if a person scores by guessing 10 question correct in g.s, he will score 20 marks more… but in negative marking scenario.. if he answers wrongly he will loss 20 marks and 6.5 marks from his original score.. so score will come down by 26 marks.

            Now, considering than both the paper especially paper 1. i thing cut off for general category will be around 170 this time…. rest leave it to god.

            And please don’t forget vacancies are slightly more this time….so lets hope for the best….
            P.S what’s annoying me is than 165 sc candidate pass prelims and 197 general category missed in 2011.. its ridiculous. I cleared CDS (ARMY OFFICERS) which is also conducted by UPSC exam because there is no reservation there. If i don’t become IAS with my present score of 175+ it will be only because of this injustice of reservations.

  • prachi

    stupid analysis .. have u ever given upsc paper .. i can very well and confidently say cutoff will be not more than 170

    • ashish

      it cant be 170 .not even for reserved category people.200-220 would be a fair assessement.

      • mahesh

        u r right!! mah first attempt though, i can say that it looks very easy to one who analyse paper @ home…last yr, mah perception was d same n even doubted d difficulty level of UPSC..bt nw having faced d exam ds yr…can say that in upsc environment its nt easy to cross 40Q… i expect 175/400… n rest i leave upto GOD!!!

      • udit

        @ashish : wait and see , nt mean to tell that you are a fool to assess such a score but this tren goes onb every year .. any1 with 180+ should go fr mains prep .. i am already in service and giving last attempt to improve performance . do u know wat d average performance of indian student is ? .

    • mayur

      r u mad you dont have any idea of upsc got it cut off this year must b above 220 got it. if you dont able to score this marks than stop posting.

  • Kshoute

    I think the analyst got his/her exam wrong….maybe he/she is analysing SSC’s CGL exam

  • Vikas

    the analysis is perfect. i have myself scored 254 and 230 is something easily believable… buckle up the seat belts for mains guys…

  • Yadviyadav

    this time csat is tougher than the last year and last year cut off was nearly about 180.so in any case it is not going beyond this.180 is the max cut off possible.

    • Ranwa170101

      from where you get information about last year cut off

  • Rags

    I think you analyse the wrong questions

  • taru

    hi sir i hav checked my paper. expecting marks somewhere around 225 after deducting negative marks. is there any hope? plz reply.

  • Shinojpolice

    i’ve been in this field for 6 yrs. there might have people who scored 220+ but when u look at the larger picture u have to moderate it to around 180-190 at max(last yr me and my friends scored around this marks and cleared, 2 of them getting service finally). i’ve seen people guessing there own marks at will.eg. few students post marks without considering the whole performance. so people who crossed 180-190(gen cat) have a very good chance. remaining 3 catg people can reduce 3-4 marks as per their reservation. not meant to hurt anyone.all the best

    • Vijay

      Mr.Shinoj you are correct except in one thing. The difference between OC mark and other category mark.. Last time the difference between OC and SC is 33.. OC 198, SC 165.. Even i didnt believe that until i saw the original scanned copy of RTI filed for last year prelim. You can find that in many websites. Just two three marks is wrong. Cos 2 of my friends too got selected in IPS.. Still if u dont believe check my image. thts the scanned copy

      • Raghava Dandu

        that was a fake rti reply.just check the authority who gave reply.he is not there in the upsc itself.dont be hurry to post such false posts.check before doing so.thank u

  • ViVek

    Please don’t get fooled by people…for general candidate cutoff cannot be 180-190 …it’ll be higher..majority of people in Delhi (Mukherjee Nagar and Rajendra Nagar) are in or above this range…. and as u all know majority of this majority will not pass…..so the general log says it cannot be so low…Remember Only top 7% of the people appeared will pass…

    • Vijay

      Mr. Vivek i am Rajendar nagar only.. Last year OC cut off was 198, OBC 175, SC 165, ST 162. This time they are expecting below 198 only. Vision IAS academy predicted 185 to 190. Also there are 150 more vacancie this time which means the cut off may reduce to 1 or 2 marks..

  • Anand 3661

    hi this is anand hi i got 155 in ST cat any hopes or chance to mains exam….?

    • GFGGF

      NO

    • Vijay

      last time ST cut off was 162.. since the paper is difficult this time it may go low.. so u hav chances..

  • Anand 3661

    hi friends pls confirm me wat is a negative marks in CSAT-2012 1st Paper 0.66 and 2nd Paper 0.88 negative is it right friends …………..

    • A206_007

      0.66 for paper 1
      0.83 for ppr2

  • Anand Kenchakkanavar

    Regarding categorywise cutoff or combined cutoff Qualifying Marks C.A.NO.9007 & 98/1996 D.D. 09.08.2001 The Hon’ble Mr. Justice S.Rajendra Babu The Hon’ble Mr. Justice Doraiswamy Raju Union Public Service Commission –Appellant Vs. A.Cletus & Others – Respondents Interpretation of Rules 15 & 16 of Competitive Examination for Civil Services Rules 1995. Held – Interpretation placed before the Tribunal appears to us perfectly in order in as much as the screening test done through a Preliminary Examination is applicable to all the candidates irrespective of the group to which they belong. There is no need to categorize the candidates as to whether they belong to different reserved categories or not and, thereafter, find out the group to which they belong before they qualify in the Preliminary Examination. ORDER The Rules that came up for consideration before the Tribunal are: “ Rules 15 and 16 of Rules for Competitive Examination for Civil Services 1995: 15. Candidates who obtain such minimum qualifying marks in the Preliminary Examination as may be fixed by the Commission at their discretion shall be admitted to the Main Examination; and candidates who obtain such minimum qualifying marks in the Main Examination (Written) as may be fixed by the Commission at their discretion shall be summoned by them for an interview for personality test. Provided that candidates belonging to the Scheduled Castes or Scheduled Tribes or Other Backward Classes may be summoned for an interview for a personality test by the Commission by applying relaxed standards in the Preliminary Examination as well as main Examination (Written) if the Commission is of the opinion that sufficient number of candidates from these communities are not likely to be summoned for interview for a personality test on the basis of general standard in order to fill up the vacancies reserved for them. 16(i) After the interview, the candidates will be arranged by the Commission in the order of merit as disclosed by the aggregate marks finally awarded to each candidates in the Main Examination (Written) examination as well as interview in that order so many candidates are found by the Commission to be qualified at the examination shall be recommended for appointment up to the number of unreserved vacancies decided to be filled on the result of the examination. (ii) The candidates belonging to any of the Scheduled Castes or the Scheduled Tribes or the Other Backward Classes may, to the extent of the extent of the number of vacancies reserved for the Scheduled Castes and the Scheduled Tribes, and the Other backward Classes be recommended by the Commission by a relaxed standard, subject to the fitness of these candidates for selection to the service. Provided that the candidates belonging to the Scheduled Castes and the Scheduled Tribes, and the other Backward Classes who have been recommended by the Commission without resorting to the relaxed standard referred to in this sub-rule shall not be adjusted against the vacancies reserved for the Scheduled Castes and the Scheduled Tribes, and the other backward Classes.” and the said Rules have to be read with Rule 3 which provides for reservation: “ 3. The number of vacancies to be filled on the result of the examination will be specified in the Notice issued by the Commission. Reservation will be made for candidates belonging to the Scheduled Castes and the Scheduled Tribes, and the other Backward Classes in respect of vacancies as may be fixed by the Government.” Having read these Rules and considering the various contentions raised before the Tribunal, held as follows: (i) Since marks obtained in the preliminary Examination by the candidates who are declared qualified for admission to Main Examination, will not be counted for determining their final order of merit and since the Preliminary Examination is only a screening test, there is no obligation on part of the UPSC to publish the marks obtained or the cut off marks for the open competition and for each reserved category; (ii) The UPSC is first required to fix a minimum qualifying marks or a pass in the Preliminary Examination and candidates who obtain such minimum qualifying marks as fixed by UPSC, have to be admitted to the Main Examination. Similarly for the Written Test and those candidates who obtain the marks so fixed by the UPSC have to be summoned for the interview for the personality test; (iii) The UPSC instead of first following the procedure laid down in the main rule and then going to the proviso, has evolved a procedure based only on the proviso, totally ignoring the main rule. The main rule has thus been made inoperative; (iv) A proviso cannot be permitted to defeat the basic intent expressed in the substantive provision. Nor can it be allowed to nullify the main rule or to make inoperative: (v) A normal construction of Rule 15 would require that a minimum qualifying marks are fixed for candidates irrespective of the community to which they belong. When the qualifying marks are fixed for Preliminary and for the Main Examination (Written), the UPSC has no choice except to declare them as having qualified in the examination; (vi) No minimum qualifying marks for the candidates as the whole has been fixed and no list of successful candidates on the basis of minimum qualifying marks has been prepared; (vii) The UPSC has decided that out of the total number sent for Main (Written) Examination, the OBC will only be 27%, SC 15% and ST 7.5% leaving the remaining 50.5% exclusively for the unreserved forward communities, the UPSC has fixed an upper ceiling on the percentage of candidates to be sent for the Main (Written) Examination for each reserved Community; (viii) Instead of starting from the main part of Rule 15 and then going to proviso, the UPSC had started with the proviso, and made the proviso alone the basis for the procedure which has been evolved; (ix) The compartmentalization right from the initial stage has resulted in 50.5% that is 4897 candidates being exclusively reserved for unreserved forward communities; (x) The UPSC has completely inter-changed the role of the proviso and the main rule and evolved a procedure based on proviso. While a proviso is intended to take out a part of the main rule for special treatment and to operate in a contingency not provided for in the main rule, the UPSC has made the proviso the main rule and has made the main rule totally inoperative; (xi) When the entire exercise starts from the roster percentage and ends with the roster percentage, the procedure solely based on the roster cannot divest itself from the twin principles of reservation set out by the Hon,ble Supreme Court in R.K.Sabbarwal & Ors. Vs. State of Punjab and Ors. (1995 SSC (L&S) 548); (xii) The UPSC should evolve a procedure so that the reserved community candidates who fall within the list of candidates selected for the unreserved posts at these two earlier stages are not considered as candidates of the reserved community while fixing the number to be called for the reserved posts; (xiii) By computing the reserved community candidates who were selected without relaxed standard at the earlier stage of the examination against the reserved vacancies the UPSC had to extend the field of the unreserved community and call more candidates from this category than would have been called if these selected candidates of reserved community had been computed against the unreserved community; (xiv) Instead of extending the field of the unreserved community he field ought to have been extended for the reserved community by excluding the candidates who were selected without relaxed standards for fixing the number to be called for the reserved vacancies; (xv) The admitted law is that a reserved community candidate selected without relaxed standard is not to be considered against the reserved vacancies. It would be in violation of this law of land if such candidates are counted against reserved vacancies at the two earlier stages consequently depriving the other reserved community candidates from bein

  • Asajsharma44

    hi.. this is amarjeet belongs from ST. I am expecting marks of 78-82 in paper 1 and 102-105 in paper 11. what is my chance….thanks for compliment….

    • Vijay

      confirm.. study for mains.. last year cut off was 162 for ST

  • sushil

    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0735109794903050… cut off for general in 2011 prelims….. now we have to guess whats going to be this year.

    1) Paper 1 was difficult than last year, it had 60+ questions with options like a,b – a,b,c – only b and a,b,c,d. so people will loose marks here.

    2) Paper 2 was lengthy and compared to last yr slightly difficult…. passages were long. Require careful deduction under stressful conditions…. so over all scoring will be less than last year..Some genius CAT aspirant give prelims for fun score 150+ in paper 2 and very less in paper 1, mislead people in discussions and shit their pants when they see the mains syllabus.. many don’t even appear for mains.

    3) Now the most important point…. if a person scores by guessing 10 question correct in g.s, he will score 20 marks more… but in negative marking scenario.. if he answers wrongly he will loss 20 marks and 6.5 marks from his original score.. so score will come down by 26 marks.

    Now, considering than both the paper especially paper 1. i thing cut off for general category will be around 170 this time…. rest leave it to god.

    And please don’t forget vacancies are slightly more this time….so lets hope for the best….
    P.S what’s annoying me is than 165 sc candidate pass prelims and 197 general category missed in 2011.. its ridiculous. I cleared CDS (ARMY OFFICERS) which is also conducted by UPSC exam because there is no reservation there. If i don’t become IAS with my present score it will be only because of this injustice of reservations.

  • Suraj

    i scored 163 in paper 2, 23 in paper 1.

  • tulika

    last year vacancy was 910 n 11984 were called for mains n cutoff may hav remained at 187-192 for gen, by averaging comments n peoples incription regarding their performance from different blogs.
    this year total vacancy is 1037, so 13656 r expected to get call for mains. it may drop down to 180(+or-3).

  • A206_007

    some one tell me …whats the negative mark for 2 no. question?(if wrong)
    is it 0.33 or 0.66???

    0

  • Ruchi

    IAS ke form delhi m kab niklenge if any body knows, so plz rply me fast.

    • aglasemjobs

      Feb 2013

    • MANOJ

      dear ruchi ias exams is held every year in june and you can apply in april

  • Mandykumar89

    this is the last year cut off list released by upsc…

  • Mandykumar89

    gen 190
    bc 175
    sc 165
    st 161
    orthopedically impaired 135
    visually impaired 124
    hearing impaired 96

  • Adv Chitranjan Kumar

    Dear All , Let me tell you that as per rule of UPSC, THERE WILL BE QUALIFYING MARKS FOR BOTH THE PAPER SEPARATELY. So you must have balance preparation in both papers. The aggregate cutoff will be consider only when you qualify in both papers with its separate cut off. Advocate Chitranjan …..08080070102